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Rafiftw · Nov 13, 2010, 03:53 AM // 03:53

It's a matter of time till anet will contact the site owner.

drkn · Nov 13, 2010, 10:31 AM // 10:31

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But since no other character/account/player information is made available, I'm not sure what a hacker/scammer could really benefit from it that they couldn't benefit from just by watching the trade-spam in-game.

This.

Moreso, if the site got popularised and not taken down by ANet, it advertises the sellers much more than spamming in Kama + having an active sell thread here, so it's actually a win situation for them.

Smarty · Nov 13, 2010, 11:35 AM // 11:35

Yeah I know, logically there's no link between character name and account info in the game itself so it doesn't really matter... it just seems wrong to have it recorded like that, for no real reason I can put my finger on. Anyways, if the software's clean it's a v fast one-stop-shop to find out an up-to-date price for things at long last, so I hope ANet check it out and approve it.

Snograt · Nov 13, 2010, 02:54 PM // 14:54

It's not software per se - to the end user it's just a website.

The owners of the site are breaking all kinds of copyright by making the site but you aren't by using it.

Scoot · Nov 13, 2010, 02:57 PM // 14:57

Excellent site.

Raven Wing · Nov 13, 2010, 03:32 PM // 15:32

I like the idea, easily accessible PC. But I'm also sure the creator breaks the EULA.
Regular users arent breaking any rules by using such a site, since it doesnt manipulate or otherwise interfere with their gw client or the traffic between that player and anet servers.
I would like to see:
1. Names edited out
2. Approval by anet so the creator of it doesnt get banned for botting or whatever.

Another thing, is that it is possible to manipulate. I could regularly go on various chars and post WTB Bow of the hierophant 55 e and other differently worded posts with prices in that range with different chars and thus make believe its worth that hoping to get it sold at that price. (while its worth 30e or less)

Waldir · Nov 13, 2010, 03:47 PM // 15:47

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Originally Posted by Raven Wing

I like the idea, easily accessible PC. But I'm also sure the creator breaks the EULA.
Regular users arent breaking any rules by using such a site, since it doesnt manipulate or otherwise interfere with their gw client or the traffic between that player and anet servers.
I would like to see:
1. Names edited out
2. Approval by anet so the creator of it doesnt get banned for botting or whatever.

Another thing, is that it is possible to manipulate. I could regularly go on various chars and post WTB Bow of the hierophant 55 e and other differently worded posts with prices in that range with different chars and thus make believe its worth that hoping to get it sold at that price. (while its worth 30e or less)

You can already do that with 2 accounts

Warvic · Nov 13, 2010, 04:12 PM // 16:12

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Originally Posted by Smarty

It's a very nice idea but I don't like that the character names are included - way to keep track of all those accounts with high value items on them! Removing all characters between $ and the first : would sit a lot better with me. (Yes I know that the info could be obtained quite easily from in game but it still seems wrong to record it and publicise it like this.)

Exactly. Go in game and you can see everyone's name.

The only reason it's not allowed on this forums is because u can link ign's to guru accounts. So you and others are horribly over-reacting.

CalinCalin · Nov 13, 2010, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Hey :

-IG name, can be crypted.
-the site owner is not, and was never banned for botting or smthg.
-In french comunity, the CM know this site and wait for give his opinion. (i think)

Btw u can't get banned for use this site, but the owner .... lets see.. (this site is up since ~ 2months or more)

I think this is a good idea, and it can only give good things to the community, im always sepaking with the creator and we had already speakd about the In game name problem, i think if community don't wanna see their Name on his site, he will crypt it.

drkn · Nov 13, 2010, 04:39 PM // 16:39

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-IG name, can be crypted.

Again, what for?
It's a useful way for the seller to get a wider audience of possible buyers, while NOT giving out anything to hijack his account, since everyone can see your char's name in game, it doesn't come with your e-mail address attached.

CalinCalin · Nov 13, 2010, 04:41 PM // 16:41

i agree with you, i just wanna say itz possible ...
if someone don't want to see their name on a website, they have the right, taht's all

Warvic · Nov 13, 2010, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Oh pls i hope they don't do that. I wanted to buy some items, and found enough sellers in no time! This is a superb website

I really love it.

Spookii · Nov 14, 2010, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Holy crap. o_O I love you.

yitjuan · Nov 14, 2010, 12:03 PM // 12:03

nice stuff. both for buyers (LF seller) and sellers (LF buyer) ...

Quaker · Nov 14, 2010, 03:36 PM // 15:36

It may be interesting to see how many people posting in this thread start an "I was hacked!" thread in the coming months.

Seriously, I would want to have this checked out before I even click the link.

CalinCalin · Nov 14, 2010, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Hacked by a Search Engine !
AL AGAINST GOOGLE TAYOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo..

seriously, i really don't know how he can hack you with that

( and what hacker give his In Game Name ?) itz Argos ~ lol.

drkn · Nov 14, 2010, 07:45 PM // 19:45

There's no way you can get hacked by this site, unless it silently installs some kind of keylogger on your machine, but i haven't noticed anything of that kind. And if you kind that knowing one's in-game name is enough to hack him... just take a look at Ventari's.

Leon X · Nov 27, 2010, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Quaker, just don't answer to strangers and you'll be safe

This site really usefull though

*Darcy* · Nov 27, 2010, 05:38 PM // 17:38

Just don't use it to give pricing in PC forum please. Let's keep in mind that asking price is not proof of value.

Chthon · Nov 27, 2010, 10:45 PM // 22:45

I do wish they'd anonymize the character names so that it ceases being a convenient source for brute force account theft...

Nov 13, 2010, 02:54 PM // 14:54	#24
Snograt rattus rattus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST Guild: [GURU]GW [wiki]GW2 Profession: R/	It's not software per se - to the end user it's just a website. The owners of the site are breaking all kinds of copyright by making the site but you aren't by using it. __________________ Si non confectus, non reficiat

Nov 13, 2010, 04:34 PM // 16:34	#29
CalinCalin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2009 Guild: YuM Profession: E/	Hey : -IG name, can be crypted. -the site owner is not, and was never banned for botting or smthg. -In french comunity, the CM know this site and wait for give his opinion. (i think) Btw u can't get banned for use this site, but the owner .... lets see.. (this site is up since ~ 2months or more) I think this is a good idea, and it can only give good things to the community, im always sepaking with the creator and we had already speakd about the In game name problem, i think if community don't wanna see their Name on his site, he will crypt it. Last edited by CalinCalin; Nov 13, 2010 at 04:38 PM // 16:38..

Nov 14, 2010, 04:32 PM // 16:32	#36
CalinCalin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2009 Guild: YuM Profession: E/	Hacked by a Search Engine ! AL AGAINST GOOGLE TAYOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo.. seriously, i really don't know how he can hack you with that ( and what hacker give his In Game Name ?) itz Argos ~ lol. Last edited by CalinCalin; Nov 14, 2010 at 04:39 PM // 16:39..

Nov 13, 2010, 03:53 AM // 03:53	#21
Rafiftw Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2010 Guild: Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???] Profession: A/E	It's a matter of time till anet will contact the site owner.

Nov 13, 2010, 11:35 AM // 11:35	#23
Smarty Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Profession: Me/	Yeah I know, logically there's no link between character name and account info in the game itself so it doesn't really matter... it just seems wrong to have it recorded like that, for no real reason I can put my finger on. Anyways, if the software's clean it's a v fast one-stop-shop to find out an up-to-date price for things at long last, so I hope ANet check it out and approve it.

Nov 13, 2010, 02:57 PM // 14:57	#25
Scoot Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Singapore Profession: Mo/E	Excellent site.

Nov 13, 2010, 03:32 PM // 15:32	#26
Raven Wing Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI] Profession: N/	I like the idea, easily accessible PC. But I'm also sure the creator breaks the EULA. Regular users arent breaking any rules by using such a site, since it doesnt manipulate or otherwise interfere with their gw client or the traffic between that player and anet servers. I would like to see: 1. Names edited out 2. Approval by anet so the creator of it doesnt get banned for botting or whatever. Another thing, is that it is possible to manipulate. I could regularly go on various chars and post WTB Bow of the hierophant 55 e and other differently worded posts with prices in that range with different chars and thus make believe its worth that hoping to get it sold at that price. (while its worth 30e or less)

Nov 13, 2010, 04:41 PM // 16:41	#31
CalinCalin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2009 Guild: YuM Profession: E/	i agree with you, i just wanna say itz possible ... if someone don't want to see their name on a website, they have the right, taht's all

Nov 13, 2010, 09:20 PM // 21:20	#32
Warvic Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Netherlands Profession: A/W	Oh pls i hope they don't do that. I wanted to buy some items, and found enough sellers in no time! This is a superb website I really love it.

Nov 14, 2010, 01:30 AM // 01:30	#33
Spookii Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southeast, USA Profession: N/	Holy crap. o_O I love you.

Nov 14, 2010, 12:03 PM // 12:03	#34
yitjuan Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: GMT +8 Guild: redt Profession: Rt/	nice stuff. both for buyers (LF seller) and sellers (LF buyer) ...

Nov 14, 2010, 03:36 PM // 15:36	#35
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	It may be interesting to see how many people posting in this thread start an "I was hacked!" thread in the coming months. Seriously, I would want to have this checked out before I even click the link.

Nov 14, 2010, 07:45 PM // 19:45	#37
drkn Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wroc??aw, Poland Guild: Midnight Mayhem Profession: Me/	There's no way you can get hacked by this site, unless it silently installs some kind of keylogger on your machine, but i haven't noticed anything of that kind. And if you kind that knowing one's in-game name is enough to hack him... just take a look at Ventari's.

Nov 27, 2010, 04:34 PM // 16:34	#38
Leon X Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2007	Quaker, just don't answer to strangers and you'll be safe This site really usefull though

Nov 27, 2010, 05:38 PM // 17:38	#39
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Just don't use it to give pricing in PC forum please. Let's keep in mind that asking price is not proof of value.

Nov 27, 2010, 10:45 PM // 22:45	#40
Chthon Grotto Attendant Join Date: Apr 2007	I do wish they'd anonymize the character names so that it ceases being a convenient source for brute force account theft...